turdferguson
New Member
I attended the Barber ATP program on Saturday and wanted to give some feedback based on my experience. I'm a new rider with N2, but started track days in Summer of 14, although I really got into it this year with 20+ days. I was nervous about signing up for a program that I couldn't find any reviews on, but took a leap of faith and am extremely happy that I did.
I don't if they want me to go into detail about what they teach, but you know the basics: traction, trail braking, body positioning, and track strategy. We went over our goals for the day and my biggest goal was to take the drama out of braking and learn to trail brake, as braking and getting off the brakes has always been my biggest weakness. Quick note, I've worked with a lot of good CRs/Instructors, these guys were top notch, the best I've ever encountered in the ability to communicate and quickly diagnose/fix issues.
I learned more in one day with these guys than I have in probably the last 15 track days I've done this year. By the end of the first day, I started getting more confident and braking a little later and tightening my line. I still felt a little nervous but was able to take Sunday and just focus on braking, while trying to remember the BP tips. I mainly focused on two turns I knew I was losing a ton of time due to poor braking, turns 8 and 12.
I could go on for far too long, but nobody would read it. Anyway, the proof is in the video. I uploaded the fastest lap from my last track weekend in August at Barber against my second fastest time on Sunday. I haven't seen my times jump this much since I was the new guy that was floored to hear that you didn't need a clutch to upshift. This was an overall 5 second improvement (1:53 to 1:48) with all laps that session at sub 1:50 times. Here you go:
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In short, the day was about $250 more than a typical track day and I’ve gotten tools that have made me safer while making me faster, which seems counterintuitive. Thanks again to N2 and the instructors for putting this together, I'll see you at Road Atlanta next year! I'll probably even take the YRCS full course next summer to get the full experience.
Steve
I don't if they want me to go into detail about what they teach, but you know the basics: traction, trail braking, body positioning, and track strategy. We went over our goals for the day and my biggest goal was to take the drama out of braking and learn to trail brake, as braking and getting off the brakes has always been my biggest weakness. Quick note, I've worked with a lot of good CRs/Instructors, these guys were top notch, the best I've ever encountered in the ability to communicate and quickly diagnose/fix issues.
I learned more in one day with these guys than I have in probably the last 15 track days I've done this year. By the end of the first day, I started getting more confident and braking a little later and tightening my line. I still felt a little nervous but was able to take Sunday and just focus on braking, while trying to remember the BP tips. I mainly focused on two turns I knew I was losing a ton of time due to poor braking, turns 8 and 12.
I could go on for far too long, but nobody would read it. Anyway, the proof is in the video. I uploaded the fastest lap from my last track weekend in August at Barber against my second fastest time on Sunday. I haven't seen my times jump this much since I was the new guy that was floored to hear that you didn't need a clutch to upshift. This was an overall 5 second improvement (1:53 to 1:48) with all laps that session at sub 1:50 times. Here you go:
In short, the day was about $250 more than a typical track day and I’ve gotten tools that have made me safer while making me faster, which seems counterintuitive. Thanks again to N2 and the instructors for putting this together, I'll see you at Road Atlanta next year! I'll probably even take the YRCS full course next summer to get the full experience.
Steve