I believe Tim told me awhile back. I do recall those wild cat days at VIR when Bob and his crew showed up initially on the south course which was 2000. I was hired on that day to corner work for him. After that, he almost left without paying the lot of us, which was only $75 for the day. None the less, its strange when you think about how it used to be. Again, if Im correct in this bit of nostalgia, Team Promotion (Glenn Goldman) and Bob used to be partners, then split off to form those groups.