What Godfather said is true ... killed a Q2 in 1 day ... with my own eyesGodfather;274536 wrote: Betarace,
From my understanding, the Q2 is better than the track day slick as in grip goes. Spoke with Chuck last year and he said Dane was only 1 second slower on Q2's than the AMA D211's.
1BAD7 tried the Trackday Slicks last year. He too is a Fast I Group guy. He crashed on at NJMP.
I was running the Q2's last year on my GSXR 600 until mid summer. It got to where I could only get 1 full track day from the rear so after talking to Taylor and JRA. I switched to the US NTECs and the rear will usually last 3 days at Vir. D209/11's or NTEC Slicks are the way to go in my humble opinion.
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Mike
Whats the price of a 180/120 N-Tech set ?Lonewrench;275899 wrote: Performance Cycleworx will only special order the Q3,the U.S. N-Tec rubber is so good and so affordable it doesn't warrant handling so many different types of rubber. (the trailer is only so big) I hope I don't disappoint to many but we have historically that most of our S.E. guys and gals run the N-Tec rubber.
I ran Michelin Power Pure's at my first TD, Q2's at my second, and on a far less powerful bike than the two of you are running I was spinning up the back like a madman by my third time at the track and still running about 1.40's at JGP. If you want to keep those nearly $20k bikes looking pretty I'd switch to race (DOT) rubber and some warmers ASAP.moman;277199 wrote: I received both my Q3 in time to mount for this past weekend at NYST. Absolutely love them! Not sure if it was the tires or my new Sidi boots but my pace picked up
Convinced a friend of mine who always runs Pirelli to try a set on his Aprilia RSV4. He's couldn't stop talking about them. Says turn in is very easy now and he's getting a much better drive out of the corner.
VState60;277251 wrote: I ran Michelin Power Pure's at my first TD, Q2's at my second, and on a far less powerful bike than the two of you are running I was spinning up the back like a madman by my third time at the track and still running about 1.40's at JGP. If you want to keep those nearly $20k bikes looking pretty I'd switch to race (DOT) rubber and some warmers ASAP.
If you're serious about getting faster on the track and staying safe I don't think you will get too far with street tires and no warmers. I'm sure there are many who will attest otherwise and say having grippy tires is a bandaid for poor technique or something to that affect but honestly the inspiration running Michelin DOT's gave me was caused what was probably the biggest jump in my riding. The first time I ran warmers and DOT's I jumped 8 seconds off my best time, and have consistently taken another 2 off each day out. With only 139HP to the rear wheel I imagine I'd of flung myself to the moon (if you're getting after it at all) on one of those two bikes. A great rider can absolutely circulate at a fast pace on street tires, but for those of us learning the craft and trying to push more everyday, it's just not a fantastic idea to me. If you're just out there circulating and running 30 seconds off the A-group pace, and only working on not being afraid at how fast others are blowing by you, by all means Q3 it up.
My buddy runs the NTech DOTs on his 08 R6s (03-05) and he will easily get 6-8 days out of them. He is in A group.noupf;275900 wrote: Whats the price of a 180/120 N-Tech set ?
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nevermind, i see they come in 190's only. realistcly, whats the difference in the n-techs vs. the q2 / q3 ( aside from the visible diferences )? Is it wear, grip ect. For a mid pace "I" guy, i'm more than happy with my q2's.....especially for the prices. Can n-techs be run on a wet track since it has sipes, even though they are small and far between.
Right now on my 06 R6, I can get 3-5 days our of a rear Q2 ( depending on the tracks ridden ) and I change out the front once for every two rears. Will N-techs last longer and give me better grip? With so many tire choices and peoples preferences, its hard to keep up on whats really needed based on my skill level. I've yet to have a q2 slip or let go while riding the track.