I Video from Barber 9-10 Nov

pje01

pje01

New Member
Welcome to a thread ofIntermediate videos from the 9-10 Nov '13 weekend at BMP.

My contribution is from the 3rd session on Saturday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFvWW7d8fVo

Me terrorizing the "I" group passing everyone until some dude flies by me going into the first kink on the back straight (about m 12:30); thus, biting my style as the I-group fast guy. Then, when this dude exits the track, he seemed to be gesturing at me in some weird way. Turns out it was NESBA SE Director John Allen without his control rider shirt on. He seemed to be doing one of those undercover patrols like DJ does. I don't often compliment other men, but when I do it regards their excellent lines, style, and smoothness.
Also, thanks to J.R. for coaching me on Sunday. Again, great yet simple advice that brought me closer to my personal best lap time.
Looking forward to next year.
 
pje01

pje01

New Member
z064life;294231 wrote: Be careful on the "terrorizing" I group.

I just started watching and you have a bad pass at 1:24 already.
Click to expand...
Fair enough on the "terrorizing". It might not be evident to everyone (including the NSA) that I'm kidding. I try to be a good citizen and follow the rules out there. I certainly have no interest in scaring or contacting the other riders! Re: the pass: my bad; during the riders meeting I thought we agreed passing under power coming out of a turn was kosher in both B and I groups.
Regardless thanks for the feed back and for watching.
 
Z

z064life

New Member
pje01;294235 wrote: Fair enough on the "terrorizing". It might not be evident to everyone (including the NSA) that I'm kidding. I try to be a good citizen and follow the rules out there. I certainly have no interest in scaring or contacting the other riders! Re: the pass: my bad; during the riders meeting I thought we agreed passing under power coming out of a turn was kosher in both B and I groups.
Regardless thanks for the feed back and for watching.
Click to expand...
I'll let a CR chime in...it's been a bit since I've ridden in I group so maybe that has changed? You can take them on the inside once the bike is fully stood up. You have to time the pass as you will already be initiating a pass like that in the corner and time it so just as they stand it up you go around. You did it several times throughout the video correctly. A few were close but I wouldn't say they were inside passes...the 1st one I wouldn't think is kosher, but again....I'll let a CR decide that one as I don't know if rules have changed.

Overall good riding, just make sure you follow the rules so you can get to A and really start to learn
 
Backmarker

Backmarker

Control Rider
Why are you using your clutch to up shift ?

Have you tried speed shifting by pre loading the shifter
and cracking the throttle. ?
 
andykurz

andykurz

Member
Pass seemed fine to me, passing on the inside on exit has always been acceptable. Plus, it wasn't close. Same thing happens at 1:40.
 
Z

z064life

New Member
andykurz;294240 wrote: Pass seemed fine to me, passing on the inside on exit has always been acceptable. Plus, it wasn't close. Same thing happens at 1:40.
Click to expand...
Wish I had known that back when I was in I.....inside after the apex would have made passing a lot easier

At 1:40 the other bike was upright as he went around though...not the same as the 1:24 pass
 
Otto Man

Otto Man

John
Control Rider
z064life;294243 wrote: Wish I had known that back when I was in I.....inside after the apex would have made passing a lot easier

At 1:40 the other bike was upright as he went around though...not the same as the 1:24 pass
Click to expand...

If the dude (Or dudette) is still leaned over, after the apex, it's still considered an inside pass, which is a no-go for "I" group.

The bike has to be straight up and down to pass, unless you're in "I" group and passing on the outside.

Just wanted to clear that up, don't want anyone reading that the wrong way.
 
Z

z064life

New Member
Otto Man;294247 wrote: If the dude (Or dudette) is still leaned over, after the apex, it's still considered an inside pass, which is a no-go for "I" group.

The bike has to be straight up and down to pass, unless you're in "I" group and passing on the outside.

Just wanted to clear that up, don't want anyone reading that the wrong way.
Click to expand...
That's what I thought.....clearly there are some that still dont understand that

the only exception is when the other bike is pitting in (at barber) per the riders meeting
 
TeamBeer

TeamBeer

Member
I thought I heard them say passing on the inside after the apex was ok, too. Exiting T5 gets to be a real traffic jam if you can't.
 
rxpusher

rxpusher

New Member
I remember during the riders meeting that passing under power coming out of a turn on the inside, post-apex, is okay. I also think it's the safer way to pass coming out of the turn cause if the rider being passed drifts out from the apex, the passing rider can get pinched. Anyways, here's my vid from day 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_hvZwxMBAw
 
mastermind

mastermind

New Member
9mmkungfu;294331 wrote: p.s. that was John Allen that passed.
Click to expand...
A good director does that. I always go out under-cover in various groups at our events. :D

I also send instructors out under-cover with no vests.

t
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top