Start Date | Stop Date | Start Miles | Stop Miles | Total Miles | Track |
10/04/19 | 10/07/19 | 4,537 | 4,629 | 92 | NC Bike CW |
10/19/19 | 10/20/19 | 4,629 | 4,738 | 109 | Road Atlanta |
06/18/20 | 06/21/20 | 7,942 | 8,015 | 73 | CMP |
06/25/20 | 06/27/20 | 8,015 | 8,058 | 43 | VIR South |
07/06/20 | 07/06/20 | 8,058 | 8,072 | 14 | VIR North |
07/24/20 | 07/26/20 | 8,072 | 8,270 | 198 | NC Bike CCW |
08/29/20 | 08/30/20 | 8,270 | 8,429 | 159 | CMP-repaved |
09/18/20 | 09/19/20 | 8,429 | 8,508 | 79 | NC Bike CCW |
I know this is somewhat old but are you running warmers with the Q3s (or Q3+) too?My $.02 is that nearly anyone can do just fine with single temp. I bring two bikes and leave one on warm as the backup and the other on high for the portion of the day that I'm using it. I find this handy, but if I were just running one bike, it is always on high.
I can't speak for other brands, but Dunlops don't really heat cycle anymore. I'm running 5+ year old fronts without any issue (as are a number of buddies/coaches I know), and they've been heated cooled MANY times.
Here's the data on one of my Q3 rears, nearly 800 miles and MANY on/offs-heat cycles:
Start Date Stop Date Start Miles Stop Miles Total Miles Track 10/04/19 10/07/19 4,537 4,629 92NC Bike CW 10/19/19 10/20/19 4,629 4,738 109Road Atlanta 06/18/20 06/21/20 7,942 8,015 73CMP 06/25/20 06/27/20 8,015 8,058 43VIR South 07/06/20 07/06/20 8,058 8,072 14VIR North 07/24/20 07/26/20 8,072 8,270 198NC Bike CCW 08/29/20 08/30/20 8,270 8,429 159CMP-repaved 09/18/20 09/19/20 8,429 8,508 79NC Bike CCW
Thanks! I’ve been running Q3+ and did get warmers when I bought the bike and haven’t used them but was wondering if they were ok to use with my tires, warmers are single temp 175F chicken hawk warmers. Just got me wondering if it may help on the first few laps after I took what I think was a cold tire spill on the first lap of a session. Front tire just lost it in a hurry. So maybe warmers would provide some extra “insurance” (when I get too impatient) and I already have the warmers. Some have said Q3+ would get “greasy” with warmers but I guess I would just have to try it. I‘ve been starting the day 32/30 cold, then let some air out throughout the day to keep 35/34 hot. Now if I could only determine if my front shake/hop under hard braking is my rotors or suspension related, can’t decide.....I am on my last Q3 (not +) rear. I run them at 35.5PSI off of the 180F-190F warmers and they are superb. I think the idea with the Q line is that you don't need warmers. I can't believe that it would hurt anything. I've been running them until there is minimal/no tread left since they came out without any ill effects. They are unbelievably good tires.
Funny you should mention that, swapping tires at home is the only time I’ve used the warmers so far and it helps As long as there’s low risk of Q3+ getting too “greasy“ I’ll try using the warmers next time (very carefully). I’ve already got a generator so I’m set there. Can’t be any worse than eating gravel in turn 5 at Road Atlanta on the first lap of the last session of the day when I thought I had it all figured out.... Thanks!Warmers on Q3/Q4 tires means you don't have to go out and build pace gradually as your tires build heat.
So you go out with a little more confidence you're not going to go into T1 at Summit Point on the brakes and experience a
low side.
You'll be able to get closer to a more optimal accurate hot tire temperature PSI with a warmed tire in the pits before you go out.
Preheating and setting the pressure prior to going out with a little more accuracy may help your tires last a little longer, and save some tire costs.
Won't necessarily be all that much..but savings is savings.
Adjustable temperature warmers aren't that big of a deal. They give you an option to go to a lower temperature setting for a bit during the day for times like the Rider's Meeting and lunch break. You can also use your warmers at home if you change your own tires to put a little heat in the tire before you mount or unmount the tire to make it a little more pliable. With the Q3/Q4 tire and Dunlop in general this may be useful because that carbon fiber sidewall is more effort than other brands. And I have pneumatic changer.
And the last consideration with tire warmers.....more than likely, you're going to need spend the money on a generator because you don't know if you'll get a power pole at some tracks...and having the generator offers you more flexibility on where you can park/pit. Luckily a nice 2000W no name generator can be had for about $400ish on Amazon. I have one for my small trailer I use for MiniGP trips to NJ.