VIR upgrades
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D-Swens
Member
Those curbs at Laguna are waaaay less aggressive than what VIR installed. Same concept, just a much less brutal version.betarace;225331 wrote: here are some examples of FIM curbing that look similar (in finished form)
Laguna installed similar to get FIM re-certification
2005 BBS chatter from BARF http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124068
physicistkev
Control Rider
I don't see what the big deal is. The stepping is always going with the flow of the track. Even so, if you are dealing with the curbing, you're already on the way off track or off bike.
There are a few spots where you can go over the curbing on 2 wheels, and those are when the bike is vertical. You don't want to drag your knee on curbing, of any kind. Ask CR Troy (Landshark) about that.
So, to recap. You don't really want to run over the curbing. You don't want to put your knee on curbing. This curbing is going outside the existing curbing, so it really shouldn't bother you at all.
As far as crashing over the curbing, yes the raised edge will tend to grab anything that goes over it. I would argue that the original curbing is going to get you going up and over the new curbing. This should minimize body parts getting caught on the raised outer edge. I said, "minimize" not alleviate. My advice... don't crash.
I don't remember who said it, but one large improvement will be visual acuity if they paint it red and white.
Kevin
There are a few spots where you can go over the curbing on 2 wheels, and those are when the bike is vertical. You don't want to drag your knee on curbing, of any kind. Ask CR Troy (Landshark) about that.
So, to recap. You don't really want to run over the curbing. You don't want to put your knee on curbing. This curbing is going outside the existing curbing, so it really shouldn't bother you at all.
As far as crashing over the curbing, yes the raised edge will tend to grab anything that goes over it. I would argue that the original curbing is going to get you going up and over the new curbing. This should minimize body parts getting caught on the raised outer edge. I said, "minimize" not alleviate. My advice... don't crash.
I don't remember who said it, but one large improvement will be visual acuity if they paint it red and white.
Kevin
Perlzuki
New Member
Two things pop up when I look at the new "IMPROVEMENTS":doh: made by VIR in these pics. 1: No way for water to drain away from the track??? 2: Look to the right. THE TIRE WALL IS STILL WAY TOO CLOSE ! If you go back over the history of VIR, the worst injuries & worse have occured when riders, drivers lost it coming out of this turn & had no time to get things together & PLOWED IN TO THE TIRES WALL:argh: I spoke to Kevin at VIR the day of Brian Johnson & Pitzers crash in this spot & he said he would check into the issue. Nothing has been done. The new "IMPROVEMENTS " could allow for more disaters to happen in this section of the track! VIR is a awesome facility & big fun to ride. If you choose to ride there, just slow down in this area as it's only a trackday & 1-2 seconds really are not worth what could be a life changing event. Always ride safe
Mark
SE CR #249 retired
Mark
SE CR #249 retired
HighWay
New Member
The back wall is permanent. http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=46842
These new curbs are on the inside of the corners but I just can’t see anything good about them except they will keep the cars off the grass. Motorcycle crashes are very unpredicatable and this new curbing is just another obstacle for us to “miss”.
eagletangogreen
New Member
I dont get what the big deal is?? Your on the gas there and I bet it will help with wheel coming up (kinda like RA turn 5) .
I like it cant wait to ride it!!
I like it cant wait to ride it!!
noobinacan
Member
^ yup
Its on the outside of oak tree, you can low side on the entry or loose front mid-corner or any of those.
you catch peg at any of these places and who knows where the bike will end up.
When anyone says "Oh I don't care, I'll still ride VIR"
VIR says "ok cool, we won't change anything then"
When all motorcycle orgs collectively say "Sorry, we're not going to show up to VIR, until and unless you address the curbs"
then you're at least putting pressure on VIR.
anyways..the positive part so far is that VIR is listening and there are two people now representing the motorcycle community and and the least we're hoping for is that back wall gone
VIR Inviting Former AMA Pro Road Racing Operations Manager Barrick To Inspect Controversial FIA Curbing
Its on the outside of oak tree, you can low side on the entry or loose front mid-corner or any of those.
you catch peg at any of these places and who knows where the bike will end up.
When anyone says "Oh I don't care, I'll still ride VIR"
VIR says "ok cool, we won't change anything then"
When all motorcycle orgs collectively say "Sorry, we're not going to show up to VIR, until and unless you address the curbs"
then you're at least putting pressure on VIR.
anyways..the positive part so far is that VIR is listening and there are two people now representing the motorcycle community and and the least we're hoping for is that back wall gone
VIR Inviting Former AMA Pro Road Racing Operations Manager Barrick To Inspect Controversial FIA Curbing
snikwad
New Member
check out T4 also...old article, but i had no idea T4 was like this.
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=37791
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=37791
moonbeam
New Member
flynlow69
Member
kinda reminds me of riding the stairs down after drinking all night and shooting pool in the bonus room! Just relax and enjoy the ride! jk
we're lucky to have a great group of orgs to give our input and a good local track like VIR to work with. Still beats the crap outa riding on the street
we're lucky to have a great group of orgs to give our input and a good local track like VIR to work with. Still beats the crap outa riding on the street