As a First Timer, Shim the rear? Or start stock?
- Thread starter Lean.In.
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However small the change, it still flattens. Which is why I said in my post "granted its a much bigger change putting it on a stand than changing the tire diameter". I realize its a much smaller change, but it still flattens out...bottom line...thats all I was saying. Now what affect will it have..? = stuff im not sure about yet being new.
You dont race with the rear stand attached? How do you get any grip with the tire on the ground?
And the parallel given by gravity = a flat horizon correct? as in no slope to the surface the bike is on.
I'd say he's been pretty patient with you. All the CRs have gone out of their way to offer helpful advice, which you seem dead set on debating. If you want to see agitable, go ask for advice on the WERA board then dismiss or disagree with it. Don't forget to mention you've never turned a wheel on the track, but you plan on doing your first day with CCS.
Everybody here loves to ride on the track, but most of us don't care much about shim heights and swingarm characteristics. So if you've got questions or comments, we're all ears, but if you just want to debate trivial shit for the hell of it, don't be surprised if you're talking to yourself before too long
Dude chill, I was messing around. He has been helpful. I agree, a LOT of people have been extremely helpful. Thats why Im picking everyones brain (maybe to death) but there is a ton to talk about related to suspension and Im bringing up valid points....for the millionth time Im not debating what I should do any longer, Im just trying to learn/discuss/disect a lot of the aspects of the suspension. Thats it...if you dont want to contribute b/c Im pissing you off, go check out another thread. Im seriously interested in this topic. I have yet to get mad at anyone on here, and I know its hard to tell the tone of someones post b/c its on a computer screen, but Ive continually tried to lighten the mood in the thread and keep it on topic.
exactly. you can use a pinion angle magentic base gauge to measure swignarm angle, but it's precarious because the ground isn't always flat. AND, swingarm angle is always changing due to rider weight, load on the rear, etc. Don't worry so much about the specific number you're trying to hit, use the way the bike feels on the gas to decide if you need more or less swingarm angle. And there's no way you can actually tell if you need more or less swingarm angle based on the bikes behavior till you're running a decent I pace. And still at that point, symptoms of other issues can make you think swingarm angle. too soft of rear spring, preload out of range, packing the shock (Thanks again Rob!)
yes, ride height is the primary effect. changes in ride height effect center of gravity which also effects weight distribution.
Almost every change on a motorcycle has an effect to some degree on almost everything else.
leave your bike nearly stock and ride the wheels off of it! I leave mine stock, but I wouldn't say I ride the wheels off of it.
