Spacemedic
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rchase;302611 wrote: NESBA SE might be a better option.
I think you have to take the NESBA out. It left too many people with a bad taste with all the poor communication.
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I think you have to take the NESBA out. It left too many people with a bad taste with all the poor communication.
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rchase
New Member
Fair enough. I'm an outsider that had planned on riding my first time with you guys at the Barber day that was canceled. I had heard of NESBA for years but was not really aware of the communication issues.
At this point though I think I may just cut my losses and go ahead and sign up for this seasons dates with my old track day org. Despite the minor issues I was trying to get away from they do actually deliver on their dates. I hope you guys get this all sorted out to everyone's satisfaction. Once the new org is more established I might come and check things out.
Spacemedic
New Member
"CFTTSFTB" - this one!rchase;302618 wrote: Fair enough. I'm an outsider that had planned on riding my first time with you guys at the Barber day that was canceled. I had heard of NESBA for years but was not really aware of the communication issues.
At this point though I think I may just cut my losses and go ahead and sign up for this seasons dates with my old track day org. Despite the minor issues I was trying to get away from they do actually deliver on their dates. I hope you guys get this all sorted out to everyone's satisfaction. Once the new org is more established I might come and check things out.
Absolutely come check things out. The way that the actual trackdays were run was excellent. Hope to see you sooner than later. :cheers:
fitz;302616 wrote: OK I can't resist!, how about...
NESBA Bike Association?
SBRADPIW - Sport Bike Riding Any Damn Place I Want
CFTTSFTB - Come For The Track Stay For The Beer
AT&T- Addicted To Track
IGOTBSTFU- I'm Getting Off The Bike STFU
Backmarker
Control Rider
Thanks for the update Rob.
I'm very happy to hear your taking control.
Cheers !!
I'm very happy to hear your taking control.
Cheers !!
physicistkev
Control Rider
I think you're making a big assumption. One that I am betting is incorrect. I don't think the people trying to take over had any idea what was going on until 7 days ago. I have been told that the SE crew didn't know anything was wrong until last weekend. That puts the issue straight on NESBA management, not N2. Couple that with not being able to make any kind of representation to membership and I think this scenario is what you end up with. The new management can't say anything and they just found out about the issues. I think that Rob and the new guys/gals are doing the best job they can. Let it go through the machine and we will deal with what comes out on the other side.
If anyone wants to dispute, don't let me stop you. I don't think anyone will hold it against you, however, as I stated in other posts, if you don't like what comes out you can still dispute. No reason to make the current proceeding any harder than it already is on the people trying to put all the pieces back together.
Folks are complaining about the new name? Seriously? :doh:
It's a trackday org. Limited competition, limited customer base. Their reputation for how handle themselves and their trackdays will determine their success or failure, not the name. I'm guessing they could call the group "TRC" (The Rainbow Coalition) and it would not make a significant difference.
Regardless: Wishing the folks picking up the torch the best! I'll be keeping an eye on how things shake out.
It's a trackday org. Limited competition, limited customer base. Their reputation for how handle themselves and their trackdays will determine their success or failure, not the name. I'm guessing they could call the group "TRC" (The Rainbow Coalition) and it would not make a significant difference.
Regardless: Wishing the folks picking up the torch the best! I'll be keeping an eye on how things shake out.
CBRtist
Well-Known Member
There's nothing wrong with the name. I'm sure things moved very quickly and they needed to get a physical name on documents to get the ball rolling. Not the best name in the world, but not the worst. Name recognition is just one element to the marketing machine. I've had clients who have had terrible name choices (and equally terrible logos), and I was still able to design successful branding and campaigns.
Besides that ^ you forget the value of the product will probably be outstanding, so I don't think people will be putting too much thought into the name
I'm looking forward to this development
yokel84
New Member
I really would've liked to have stuck with NESBA, but I was already overextended and simply couldn't tolerate the risk of not pulling out when I did. I'm still grateful to all the people involved for helping me realize my passion for riding motorcycles as fast as I can.
While I may disagree with the way things were done, I do trust they were done for the sake of the members with a HUGE number of credits on NESBAs books. I'd imagine the most likely way to honor everyone's credits, was to keep the organization going.
All to often, though, financial health is based on people's perceptions. I really hope to see this community continue to thrive.
TLDr—Ride in the rain; it'll teach you a lot about traction.
While I may disagree with the way things were done, I do trust they were done for the sake of the members with a HUGE number of credits on NESBAs books. I'd imagine the most likely way to honor everyone's credits, was to keep the organization going.
All to often, though, financial health is based on people's perceptions. I really hope to see this community continue to thrive.
TLDr—Ride in the rain; it'll teach you a lot about traction.
D-Zum
My 13 year old is faster than your President
Maybe...JUST maybe the $2000 season pass special offer was an attempt to raise enough operating cash to start this season off and Bob hoped that startup cash would get NESBA's season going..but it didn't work out, and he had no intention of any of this happening.
Speculation..but it is possible.
Two smaller, more agile organizations may be better and run smoother than the Goliath NESBA became.
Speculation..but it is possible.
Two smaller, more agile organizations may be better and run smoother than the Goliath NESBA became.
maxpr1
New Member
fitz;302616 wrote: OK I can't resist!, how about...
NESBA Bike Association?
SBRADPIW - Sport Bike Riding Any Damn Place I Want
CFTTSFTB - Come For The Track Stay For The Beer
AT&T- Addicted To Track
IGOTBSTFU- I'm Getting Off The Bike STFU
Anybody know where I can get a "CFTTSFTB" Sticker?
Spacemedic
New Member
CBRtist;302627 wrote: There's nothing wrong with the name. I'm sure things moved very quickly and they needed to get a physical name on documents to get the ball rolling. Not the best name in the world, but not the worst. Name recognition is just one element to the marketing machine. I've had clients who have had terrible name choices (and equally terrible logos), and I was still able to design successful branding and campaigns.
Besides that ^ you forget the value of the product will probably be outstanding, so I don't think people will be putting too much thought into the name
I'm looking forward to this development
I agree with you on most of these points. And of course it can still be successful and very likely the product will be great. But we need more and new riders. Imagine "N2 trackdays" on a t-shirt.
Suzuki GSX-R600
How about "The Track Day Provider Formerly Known as NESBA"? Lol
motorkas
Member
:agree:CBRtist;302627 wrote: There's nothing wrong with the name. I'm sure things moved very quickly and they needed to get a physical name on documents to get the ball rolling. Not the best name in the world, but not the worst. Name recognition is just one element to the marketing machine. I've had clients who have had terrible name choices (and equally terrible logos), and I was still able to design successful branding and campaigns.
Besides that ^ you forget the value of the product will probably be outstanding, so I don't think people will be putting too much thought into the name
I'm looking forward to this development
People thought Toyota, Honda and Nissan were crazy to start their luxury brands and name them Lexus, Acura and Infinity (people thought Datsun was doomed once it changed its name to Nissan). When Google, Yahoo, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Ebay ect were doing their IPO's. . .Berkshire Hathaway was the name of a paper manufacturer if Im not mistaken. . .
Hell, probably the cheesiest named thing I own is a CZ 550 "Ultimate Hunting Rifle" with a just as cheesy named "NightForce" scope. . .but all that cheesiness guarantees MOA out to a 1000yrds. . .
But my all time personal favorite - who in their right mind would name a car a "Barracuda". . .:adore::adore:
borislav
Control Rider
CZ=good stuff!!!motorkas;302643 wrote: :agree:
People thought Toyota, Honda and Nissan were crazy to start their luxury brands and name them Lexus, Acura and Infinity (people thought Datsun was doomed once it changed its name to Nissan). When Google, Yahoo, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Ebay ect were doing their IPO's. . .Berkshire Hathaway was the name of a paper manufacturer if Im not mistaken. . .
Hell, probably the cheesiest named thing I own is a CZ 550 "Ultimate Hunting Rifle" with a just as cheesy named "NightForce" scope. . .but all that cheesiness guarantees MOA out to a 1000yrds. . .
But my all time personal favorite - who in their right mind would name a car a "Barracuda". . .:adore::adore:
One more example
Who would name a condom Trojan!? If you know history first thought would be diversion!Diversion+condom+sex=potential problem!
But because QUALITY is there nobody care about name!!!
motorkas
Member
Bo, love me some CZ - (country as well as the firearms). . .current have S&W's H&K's FN's, SIGS, Rock River, Kimber and Glock (another cheesy name) in the house and if the zombies come - grabbing all my CZs first. . .borislav;302644 wrote: CZ=good stuff!!!
One more example
Who would name a condom Trojan!? If you know history first thought would be diversion but that word+condom+sex=potential problem!
But because QUALITY is there nobody care about name!!!
. . .to this day, I still don't know what the correct pronunciation of Ohlins, Shoei, Marchesini and Dainese are. . .
. . .
noobinacan
Member
Good to hear about the new org for sure! and hopefully you all will have some summit main dates ?
I don't understand why everyone's after Mike55, dude's got $2k tied up.
that's riding budget for the whole season for a lot of people and I'd be up in arms too.
?I'd say this to anyone in person too, so why not here.
I don't understand why everyone's after Mike55, dude's got $2k tied up.
that's riding budget for the whole season for a lot of people and I'd be up in arms too.