why would you not want your tires hot for your first session? :notsure:Meat;77386 wrote: I have the Chickenhawks that have 3 settings (pole position?). I put them on medium about 45 minutes before the first session of the weekend. We have a yellow flag lap for the first lap and then takes a couple more laps to get up to more speed.
Because if I am riding too slowly on the yellow flag lap, I am cooling the tires. It also takes a few laps on the first session of the first day to get up to speed. So, as I am speeding up, my tires are warming up. As opposed to going out with them at 180-185 degrees, sitting on the grid while they cool, roll slowly around the track on the yellow flag lap (which I like that nesba does) and then continue cooling them until I finally get up to speed.sobottka;77397 wrote: why would you not want your tires hot for your first session? :notsure:
not too smart but do as you pleaseMeat;77426 wrote: Because if I am riding too slowly on the yellow flag lap, I am cooling the tires. It also takes a few laps on the first session of the first day to get up to speed. So, as I am speeding up, my tires are warming up. As opposed to going out with them at 180-185 degrees, sitting on the grid while they cool, roll slowly around the track on the yellow flag lap (which I like that nesba does) and then continue cooling them until I finally get up to speed.
?????? How is avoiding a heat cycle not too smart? In I-group people aren't rolling too fast in the first session. Most people are just coming up to speed toward the end of the session.sobottka;77443 wrote: not too smart but do as you please
I have the dual temp suzuka's myself. I Like the 2 yellow laps myself just to adjust to being back on the track but it does allow the tires too cool off.Meat;77453 wrote: ?????? How is avoiding a heat cycle not too smart? In I-group people aren't rolling too fast in the first session. Most people are just coming up to speed toward the end of the session.
So, rolling out onto the grid at 180 degrees and then cooling them over the next 3 minutes on the grid and then the first few laps is somehow better? Explain.
I am not sure how fast tires cool off, but it would seem like the pavement could suck the heat out of them reasonably quick in the morning since the track would just act as a heat sink because the tire is constantly touching a cool surface (as opposed to warming up a section of track).vanbreezy;77456 wrote: I have the dual temp suzuka's myself. I Like the 2 yellow laps myself just to adjust to being back on the track but it does allow the tires too cool off.
Surely you can give more information than that. I do not claim to know tons about motorcycles, nor am I an expert in polymers or heat transfer, but since I gave the logic behind my decision, that would normally dictate your logic in your rebuttal.sobottka;77454 wrote: cause you're not avoiding a heat cycle and going out on tires not up to temp.
I personally like the slicks for the feel they give. I am probably not pushing the traction limit most of the time, but I can really feel what is going on when I am on a slick versus a DOT tire. BTW: I am on AMA GPA take-offs right now because I cannot afford slicks at this time, I usually run the Dunlop slicks when I can afford them.Fastguy;77472 wrote: For track days, do you really need slicks/tire warmers to advance to the A group?
I understand that I won't be able to go out on my first lap and rip off a track record but are they really necessary?
What's the advantage of slicks/tire warmers vs. say Dunlop Qualifiers?
Do slicks offer that much more grip for the additional expense?
Would they help me to go faster?
Please help me to understand