I have seen many visors pop off in a crash. The Arai is the only one that has ever came off in any of my crashes and unfortunately for my head, bank account, and dead bikes, I have crashed enough.BigBird;157479 wrote: my shark visor has popped off in a crash...and as I found out, it happens a lot to a variety of helmets.
^ This.slowpoke;157293 wrote: I have not read up on helmets like some others so I apologize for my ignorance. What I have done is crashed at triple digits in my Arai and my head hit the ground first w/ a significant impact.
After that experience, I would have a hard time wearing anything but an Arai. Plus, it doesn't hurt that they're a NESBA sponsor and their customer service is kickass.
I have read through this and tried to hold my tounge but whatever rep your have been speaking to is talking out of his or her FART BOX....:banghead:realyamr1;157416 wrote: i sold helmet at cycle gear for a living and talked to a lot of people reps from a lot helmet companys and the info im giving is from those reps and research i did on my own
That video does a great job of explaining why I fear for my noggin' with current helmet tech. That man claims to have landed on to his head and shoulder at ~250mph and they said the helmet was "good to go" (according to him). W.T.F. That helmet should've been toast. That it wasn't toast means either his shoulder took the impact (he didn't mention whether he broke any bones), that the salt flat is softer than asphalt (pretty sure it is), or that helmet is way too stiff for its intended application (he was setting a landspeed record for goodness sake!).LOrtega;157622 wrote: Furthermore here is a video which speaks for itself ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIQuH5lkN9w
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I would imagine if they marketed helmets in the fashion you are asking, they would lose a lot of business. Look at how many riders wear 1/2 helmets, 3/4 helmets, and modular helmets. It has been proven that the safest helmet to wear is a one piece full face, yet all of these people get other helmets for whatever reason. If you look deeper, you can find that shoei and arai are two of the safest helmets in the world, but they market them to try to get the other helmet wearers to buy their product.geekmug;157623 wrote: That video does a great job of explaining why I fear for my noggin' with current helmet tech. That man claims to have landed on to his head and shoulder at ~250mph and they said the helmet was "good to go" (according to him). W.T.F. That helmet should've been toast. That it wasn't toast means either his shoulder took the impact (he didn't mention whether he broke any bones), that the salt flat is softer than asphalt (pretty sure it is), or that helmet is way too stiff for its intended application (he was setting a landspeed record for goodness sake!).
I'm not sure why Shoei thinks that it is a positive marketing item to say their helmet was unscathed by such a tremendous crash. I want my helmet to destroy itself, and not my brain with a diffuse brain injury. I don't know what sort of impact they are making their helmets for, but that marketing doesn't convince me that their helmet is what I want to protect my head at energy levels my "little" 600 can produce.
The helmet industry's threshold model for injury is certainly to blame here -- AFAICT, their standard seems to only distinguish between a fatal/non-fatal level of injury. Even with such a threshold model, it's unclear to me why even the most stringent standard is only 275gs, when that is already regarded as a serious trauma. I would gladly wear a helmet that had a thicker EPS liner.. why doesn't anyone market a helmet as "the lowest gs in the industry" or "the thickest EPS liner in the industry" instead of "lightest helmet in the industry" or "best airflow." It seems like we all are missing the point.
If nothing else, I will give my nod to the SHARP ratings and their making data available that is otherwise solely abbreviated as "certified" or not in the US.
/rant
Just so you know I have seen this Helmet and it is far from good to go...geekmug;157623 wrote: That video does a great job of explaining why I fear for my noggin' with current helmet tech. That man claims to have landed on to his head and shoulder at ~250mph and they said the helmet was "good to go" (according to him). W.T.F. That helmet should've been toast. That it wasn't toast means either his shoulder took the impact (he didn't mention whether he broke any bones), that the salt flat is softer than asphalt (pretty sure it is), or that helmet is way too stiff for its intended application (he was setting a landspeed record for goodness sake!).
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uke:realyamr1;157658 wrote: the shark rsr2 is the only helmet that has a full carbone fiber kevlar woven matt shell with crumple zone technology for the regular pulbic. arai and shoei do not offer this to there regular customer base. the shark is design to keep the energy from an impact away from your brain. the top riders racers that wear arai, wear the rx-7gp carbone from arai thats now available for 2000 dollars, but im sure all the reps i talked to are talking out there fart hole to the person that would be selling the helmets but anyway. im sure to say if mr. edwards was to wreck in a gp race his base plate wouldnt fail and his visor just pop off. im sure he would just get up and walk away without a problem from the helmet.
opcorn: oorguy:LOrtega;157669 wrote:
I love how you are telling me who works for SHOEI, does SHOEI racer support, and has worked on the actual helmets SHOEI racers wear what we make our helmest out of ....
Thats great :banghead:
I just forwarded this to some ARAI techs I know as well
they should not be missing out on this fun..opcorn: