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gursesl
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Pushing a business
I am not sure how one defines pushing someone else's business on a public forum, but as a paying customer to Pics of You (Yes, I did purchase a full CD of images at the end of the track day on 7/1 at Summit Main) I am somewhat irritated that another, amateur photographer's pics can be deleted from a public forum with no notification. I mean, is this a common practice on this board? I am sorry to say this, but I am now less inclined to buy from Pics of You if this is how they keep raising barriers of entry.
BTW, again if this turns out to be true, the other photographer's stuff was simply amazing and seeing both photos side by side, one can understand why they got removed.
Don't mean to start an argument, but if this is true, i.e. Pics of You had the thread removed -- it is a bit annoying.:idea:
I am not sure how one defines pushing someone else's business on a public forum, but as a paying customer to Pics of You (Yes, I did purchase a full CD of images at the end of the track day on 7/1 at Summit Main) I am somewhat irritated that another, amateur photographer's pics can be deleted from a public forum with no notification. I mean, is this a common practice on this board? I am sorry to say this, but I am now less inclined to buy from Pics of You if this is how they keep raising barriers of entry.
BTW, again if this turns out to be true, the other photographer's stuff was simply amazing and seeing both photos side by side, one can understand why they got removed.
Jeremyw5
New Member
I'm still not sure why the photos were deleted but just to clarify, we were not trying to take business away from anyone. We were not charging for our photos nor were we trying to compete with anyone. In fact, nick told me he spent the first 2 sessions of the day talking with one of the PICS OF YOU photographers. The intent wasn't to step on anyone's toes. We just wanted to share a couple of good shots from the day.
CBRtist
Well-Known Member
I don't know why it was deleted and I hope you get an answer. I'm sure it was well intended and no harm was meant. But........ I can sort of see the conflict. It would be like me having a client, hiring a ABC photographer for a shoot and while I'm art directing the shoot, non-hired photographer XYZ is taking pics then shows client pics he took... didn't say they were for sale but did slip him his business card.
While it wasn't said that they were for sale, trying to take business away, or compete... it could be perceived as that when you put pictures up as an unauthorized vendor in addition to dropping the company name and getting free promotion/advertising.
Let me play Devil's advocate here and turn this around. While your friend did talk to PICS, did he mention what you all intended to do? My second question would be as an unauthorized vendor taking pictures, did your friend have everybody he shot sign a model release? This was not a public event. NESBA paid for the track which makes it private.
Just my two cents :dunno: which could be diddly squat.
While it wasn't said that they were for sale, trying to take business away, or compete... it could be perceived as that when you put pictures up as an unauthorized vendor in addition to dropping the company name and getting free promotion/advertising.
Let me play Devil's advocate here and turn this around. While your friend did talk to PICS, did he mention what you all intended to do? My second question would be as an unauthorized vendor taking pictures, did your friend have everybody he shot sign a model release? This was not a public event. NESBA paid for the track which makes it private.
Just my two cents :dunno: which could be diddly squat.
Jeremyw5
New Member
I understand where you are coming from. I am not trying to start any sort of conflict or anything here. To answer your questions. I have no idea what Nick and the PICS photographer talked about. We didn't even have intentions of sharing the photos. He came to practice his craft and get better at what he does. I really did not think, and I still don't think, that the folks out there riding have any objections to photographs being taken of them as they ride.
Again, not trying to start any drama here. I come out because I love to ride and in the same way, he came out because he loves to take photos. I apologize if we offended anyone with our photos. That being said, people did seem to really like his work, and if we aren't allowed to share because we are an "unauthorized vendor" I would like to figure out how to do it right and become "authorized" to do things like that at the events we go to.
CBRtist
Well-Known Member
Nobody offended (at least I'm not). In fact, my husband was in one of the photos... I *somehow* didn't make the cut but I wasn't riding with the guys.
I don't think the issue would be with shooting, but rather how the pics are promoted, posted and distributed. You can always email info@nesba.com and ask
guys. I don't think the issue would be with shooting, but rather how the pics are promoted, posted and distributed. You can always email info@nesba.com and ask
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The thread was removed with authorization from the director. It was felt that it was offering photo's to members and infringing on the agreement with the official photographer at the track. It is OK to take photo's of friends but to take photo's of other people and offering them out is taking away from the photographers ability to earn a living.
Bob O.
The thread was removed with authorization from the director. It was felt that it was offering photo's to members and infringing on the agreement with the official photographer at the track. It is OK to take photo's of friends but to take photo's of other people and offering them out is taking away from the photographers ability to earn a living.
Bob O.
daddyfriedrich
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BS. Unamerican. opcorn:
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