115 hp version and 120 hp version. Drops 9kg (~20lb) from the old 955 motor. Should be a cheaper + lighter competitor in the supersport segment. I wonder if they were able to cut some length out and shorten the wheelbase.
The big change:
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115 hp version and 120 hp version. Drops 9kg (~20lb) from the old 955 motor. Should be a cheaper + lighter competitor in the supersport segment. I wonder if they were able to cut some length out and shorten the wheelbase.
The big change:
domarena33
Track Day Superstar
20lbs 
NothingClever
ATP/3C
I dunno…
I already had an unfortunate and discouraging experience with the 959/V2 engine’s plastic drive gear for the water pump (not the actual impeller). Ducati went to the plastic gear to save weight - big mistake I came to learn and I wasn’t the only one affected. Fresh out of the dealer with only 700 miles on the clock and just a couple of months out of warranty, Ducati NA balked at helping out with a completely disintegrated plastic drive gear.
I replaced it with a steel gear that the WorldSBK (SSP) teams use. The new drive gear wasn’t expensive but getting all the disintegrated bits out of the oil circuit was painful. Ducati finally relented and pitched in $500 on a $2400 bill.
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So, given Ducati’s weight loss of 20lbs, I’d be really curious to understand where and how they achieved that. That’s a big step. I don’t imagine all tgat weight savings happened just with the engine but I’d still be concerned about high-wear or high-stress engine components having gone to plastic.
I already had an unfortunate and discouraging experience with the 959/V2 engine’s plastic drive gear for the water pump (not the actual impeller). Ducati went to the plastic gear to save weight - big mistake I came to learn and I wasn’t the only one affected. Fresh out of the dealer with only 700 miles on the clock and just a couple of months out of warranty, Ducati NA balked at helping out with a completely disintegrated plastic drive gear.
I replaced it with a steel gear that the WorldSBK (SSP) teams use. The new drive gear wasn’t expensive but getting all the disintegrated bits out of the oil circuit was painful. Ducati finally relented and pitched in $500 on a $2400 bill.
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So, given Ducati’s weight loss of 20lbs, I’d be really curious to understand where and how they achieved that. That’s a big step. I don’t imagine all tgat weight savings happened just with the engine but I’d still be concerned about high-wear or high-stress engine components having gone to plastic.
D-Zum
$10 Eggs are worth the death of the Woke MindVirus
I got a great deal on a 2023 Streetfighter V2 in like June this year....I don't have a lot of miles on it yet, but I can tell you that's the best bike nobody talks about. The V4 is just too much on the street for my taste and my V4 Panigale has taught me that that motor is a thirsty bitch. The V2 appears to be much more fuel friendly. And to be clear, the fuel thing isn't about fuel cost..it's more about range.I gotta try me a Ducati at some point... Maybe a new gen V2 streetfighter.
It's like my Staccato 2011's....when I go to the range, it's gotten to the point there's nothing else I want to take. They're cheat codes
NothingClever
ATP/3C
I was on a Ducati forum for seven years and the seasoned riders wanted the SFV2, not the SFV4.
The SFV2 addresses a capability requirement.
The SFV4 addresses an identity gap.
The SFV2 addresses a capability requirement.
The SFV4 addresses an identity gap.
NothingClever
ATP/3C
Precisely.
Some more random thoughts.
Lot of belly aching over the loss of 30-35 HP from the Superquadro. IDK, I don't think these 2 versions of the engines will be the only ones. It wouldn't take much at all to get that power back- if it's even needed.
Speaking of the SFV2 though, this does raise an interesting question. What happens to it? Now it will have the same engine as the Monster. Which is another reason I think we will see more versions of this engine. Would also be cool to see the return of the baby supersport R. Like the old 749R. A sub ~400lb (w/no cat exhaust) V2R would be a real treat.
Lot of belly aching over the loss of 30-35 HP from the Superquadro. IDK, I don't think these 2 versions of the engines will be the only ones. It wouldn't take much at all to get that power back- if it's even needed.
Speaking of the SFV2 though, this does raise an interesting question. What happens to it? Now it will have the same engine as the Monster. Which is another reason I think we will see more versions of this engine. Would also be cool to see the return of the baby supersport R. Like the old 749R. A sub ~400lb (w/no cat exhaust) V2R would be a real treat.
D-Zum
$10 Eggs are worth the death of the Woke MindVirus
I had a 2016 Hypermotard and a 2020 Monster 821...both ran versions of the same motor, too. It's more than motor that sells a bike, and the same powerplant can be sold in various states of tune for different applications. I mean Suzuki is still using the tried and true 2005 GSXR1000 motor for it's line up of sport touring/touring platforms.
https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/quick-look-long-travel-2024-suzuki-gsx-s1000gx/
https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/quick-look-long-travel-2024-suzuki-gsx-s1000gx/
Does that part effect the 2023 Panigale V2?I dunno…
I already had an unfortunate and discouraging experience with the 959/V2 engine’s plastic drive gear for the water pump (not the actual impeller). Ducati went to the plastic gear to save weight - big mistake I came to learn and I wasn’t the only one affected. Fresh out of the dealer with only 700 miles on the clock and just a couple of months out of warranty, Ducati NA balked at helping out with a completely disintegrated plastic drive gear.
I replaced it with a steel gear that the WorldSBK (SSP) teams use. The new drive gear wasn’t expensive but getting all the disintegrated bits out of the oil circuit was painful. Ducati finally relented and pitched in $500 on a $2400 bill.
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So, given Ducati’s weight loss of 20lbs, I’d be really curious to understand where and how they achieved that. That’s a big step. I don’t imagine all tgat weight savings happened just with the engine but I’d still be concerned about high-wear or high-stress engine components having gone to plastic.
NothingClever
ATP/3C
Sorry but I don’t know. After getting my 2019 fixed, I stopped researching.
NothingClever
ATP/3C
So many bikes...so little time.
And now the new bikes. $15K for the base, $18K for the S, Panigale cut 37lb from the previous one but lost about as much HP. Supposedly does similar lap times. I dont think it would take much to get these under 400lb fueled up, and more aggressive ergos can be dialed back in. I still feel like a V2 R is in the works but I have zero proof or insight.
