Slipper clutch
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Revvin' Evan
New Member
I hear ya man. Just like the 07 and up 600rr's have Idle Air Bypass thats supposed to reduce back torque like a slipper does...........I guess my Idle Air Bypass system is broke as a mofo :nada:
I both agree & disagree with this. I look at a slipper clutch a like I look at a steering damper. For example 99% of bikes don't NEED a damper, with a good suspension set-up and a loose grip on the bars (I would consider this riding skill) it's just not necessary, but most riders have to firm a grip on the bars and self induce headshake. So instead of correcting the problem, they put a damper on the bike and mask the real problem.
That said, the other side of the coin is that in some instances (like on the gas hard out of a slow corner - and hitting some bumps in the track with little or no load on the front) bad handshake will occur and without a damper will turn into a tankslapper... so if you ride with a damper are you masking a lack of skill or are you safe guarding yourself for the what if?
Same goes for a slipper clutch, yea they are a wonderful thing that keeps the bike settled during multiple down shifts for a faster and more confident corner entry. But also in an emergency situation where to jump on the brakes hard and drop down 2 or 3 or even 4 gears at once - you don't really have to worry about the rear bouncing around like it would without a slipper. But it will definitely mask the lack a skill / art of down shifting/rev-matching.
And yes - I currently use both a slipper & a damper on my race bike.
nrcooled
New Member
Pulling back an old thread here.
Do the guys that have slippers in their bikes still rev match with the slipper?
I rev-match on every downshift and don't just bang down the gears and let the slipper figure it out. I will say that it's nice to have a fallback in the event that I do screw up the down-shift or grab an extra gear that I didn't intend on.
It seems that the bike is always settled on corner entry and provides a level of confidence.
Do the guys that have slippers in their bikes still rev match with the slipper?
I rev-match on every downshift and don't just bang down the gears and let the slipper figure it out. I will say that it's nice to have a fallback in the event that I do screw up the down-shift or grab an extra gear that I didn't intend on.
It seems that the bike is always settled on corner entry and provides a level of confidence.
My 06 750 has one. I love it, tho I still blip the throttle.
I also ride a 749 Duc and was looking to put one in that then I learned the correct way to downshift. (Thank you Keith Code ). No one had every told me and shown me how.
You do the clutch, throttle and shift lever as fast as possible and at what seems like the same time. You pull in and release the clutch as fast as possible. At the same time you blip the throttle as fast as possible.
Practice synchronizing these two movements then add the foot movement. Do this while sitting on a non-running bike. Then practice while going slow in the street.
I am so happy with this technique that I would not put a slipper in the DUC if it was free. Just my opinion.
Ben.
I also ride a 749 Duc and was looking to put one in that then I learned the correct way to downshift. (Thank you Keith Code ). No one had every told me and shown me how.
You do the clutch, throttle and shift lever as fast as possible and at what seems like the same time. You pull in and release the clutch as fast as possible. At the same time you blip the throttle as fast as possible.
Practice synchronizing these two movements then add the foot movement. Do this while sitting on a non-running bike. Then practice while going slow in the street.
I am so happy with this technique that I would not put a slipper in the DUC if it was free. Just my opinion.
Ben.
Motofun352
Control Rider
I blip the throttle on my R1 (no Slipper clutch). I just downshift on my '05 GSXR 750 (w/slipper), though I try not to abuse it, too much. Bottom line, for me anyways, is one less thing to think about as you're trying to push your personal envelope helps avoid data overload. I still find some of the CR's blipping the throttle, downshifting and passing on the inside like I'm standing still, SO...NO, a slipper is not necessary to go fast.
Another way to think of this is...Are you "old school?". If so, learn the old school ways. If you can't imagine why you would write notes with a paper/pencil when your dingleberry device is easier, go with the slipper clutch...technology moves on!
Another way to think of this is...Are you "old school?". If so, learn the old school ways. If you can't imagine why you would write notes with a paper/pencil when your dingleberry device is easier, go with the slipper clutch...technology moves on!