Last year we had a similar thread and Fred Duncan chimed in briefly. The Midwest seems to hold the card closer to their chest than your region. I thing that "No news is bad news".gkotlin;226912 wrote: What Putnam makes is irrelevant. Remember that in the Midwest the season is half as long as it might be on other areas of the country. So they have to make a years worth of income in 6-8 months.
Again, we're not even into 2012 yet. Give them time to work things out and they schedule will work itself out.
I agree that there is less time to work with in the Midwest. When dealing with the challenge of a compressed timeline you need to pack in the dates. That is not what we are seeing here. Also you must attack the prime time dates. For NESBA that is May, June, July and August. How dates does NESBA have at BHF and Putnam over this time slot...one at each, not good.
As for the wait and see philosophy, we tried that last year and how did that work out? Started with 0 Putnam dates and ended with 0 Putnam dates.
BrokenSafety;227028 wrote: Not my region, but how about the local management team say something. Seems like they would know something, if not say you dont. If I have a problem with a local Sears, then I speak to local management, then call the head office, if I dont like what I hear - Pretty simple.
So, who runs your region? I know Chris and John have the North/east and Southeast and they are pretty vocal with issues on the board.
Is anyone manning the ship over here?
So now we get closer to the root of the problem.gonecrazy;227168 wrote: ...The total fail part was that nesba didnt get there contracts in by the deadline so we took the date.
yea, most tracks are pretty strick about getting the contracts in on time along with the deposits. I see your from missouri also. have I met you at one of the gateway trackdaysRelic;227178 wrote: So now we get closer to the root of the problem.
I counted three NESBA dates on the BHF calendar and zero on the NESBA MW calendar. I count that as three tentative.Nexus;227206 wrote: So someone please update me again....how many confirmed/tentative dates are at Blackhawk this year with Nesba?
Never done Gateway before although I see a couple of MCRA dates with Gateway this year that's got me thinking. I plan to do most of the MCRA days with Putnam and Topeka this year. If you like, PM me your information if you are from the St. Louis area...always looking for buddies to share drives/rides.gonecrazy;227209 wrote: yea, most tracks are pretty strick about getting the contracts in on time along with the deposits. I see your from missouri also. have I met you at one of the gateway trackdays
Maybe, or it could mean NESBA wasn't interested in Putnam and didn't bother. :dunno:Relic;227178 wrote: So now we get closer to the root of the problem.
I know a few that would be happy to help out the mw region if they could.Fritz;227246 wrote: My two cents... from NESBA home page, "The Northeast Sportbike Association (NESBA) is a non-profit, volunteer-run organization", just curious how many have offered to help the MW group in scheduling or helping in/at any events at all. We all enjoy the time on the track, but maybe a little volunteer effort off the track could reap some nice rewards for the entire organization.
:agree: I've spent quite a few bucks, whether it was a drop in the pot, Amanda making food, the $100's i've spent to make chili. It just goes to show the lack of appreciation and that US NESBIANS making a facility safer to ride on doesn't mean shit, but thats about all i'm gonna say on that before i get myself in trouble..racer23;227251 wrote:
When I talked to Kathleen Casey in regards to the 2012 schedule, I requested our historic dates, mid April, June, 4th of July week, and CCO weekend. She penciled us in at that time. We were only offered April and September dates for whatever reason, you would have to ask Kathleen about that. I was as surprised as anyone given what Nesba Midwest has done for BFR with the Airfence donations.
Does it suck? Hell yes. Do I feel betrayed? Hell yes.
racer23;227251 wrote: until I hear it from DJ,
We are actively seeking dates at all Midwest tracks, thank you all for your passion for our region.