I see that we have identified a significant issue here. But, we haven't talked about how to remedy the issue of cancellations. NO OTHER TRACKDAY ORG PROVIDES MEMBERS CANCELLATION WITH ZERO RAMIFICATIONS as is afforded NESBA Elite Members. I suggest to remedy this. Don't give SO MUCH freedom with absolutely no re-course.
Isn't it past your bed time?
JRA;300396 wrote: As I said before I think that maybe this policy should be revisited in the future, but Bob has been doing this a lot longer than me so I'm sure he better understands the real cost to the organization than I do. We did have a more rain than usual last year though, and I saw first hand how it really affected things at the last minute. We've had this policy for a while, so it's nothing new, but last year it was REALLY used. Much like you guys I just have to wonder if that's sustainable if we were to have another wet year in 2014.
I completely understand using the policy you signed up for when it suits you. What kills me though is the guys who cancelled the morning of the event based on a chance of rain sometime during the day, only to sit in their pit and watch everyone else ride on a dry track all day, or 90% of the day. I mean you are there, why not ride? Bring a set of rains and find out what that's all about. It's actually fun. I know one thing, don't come to me later in the day and tell me how you wished you had not cancelled, I might have to hit you.
) I have ridden in the rain/wet on DOT tires and I was scared shitless, the bike was sliding all over the place and I had to putt around like a grandma so that doesn't = fun to me. This isn't the first time I have seen the people that took advantage of the latitude suggesting it be taken away. I kept my rain dates regardless and cancelled a couple of sunny dates last minute (that were sold out anyway) due to school obligations. NESBA didn't lose a nickel on me. If you see a problem with your actions, remedy them. Your theory insists that I am inconvenienced and financially impacted so that you can address a problem that you found in yourself and I don't have. Voluntarily relinquish your own right to cancel rain days if you are concerned before you get so cavalier with my money.:dunno: Maybe one of the reasons some of ride with NESBA is because they afford us this courtesy?
joeyb;300477 wrote: I am one of the people that cancelled a few times last year due to the rain or wet track, people can call me a pussy if you want but these are my reasons why:
I don't have rain tires (I might buy some this year and then hopefully it won't rain again
I wrecked at VIR N last year because I was rushing around in the morning, went out on a new rear tire on a cold morning and I didn't take the time to put my warmers on. I was trying to get out of the way of a couple of faster riders on my out lap and lowsided, my bike slid to the outside of the turn and took out one of the other riders. It ended up costing me a lot of $ to fix it but luckily I wasn't hurt and I did not want to take another chance to wreck again. The worst part is that I took out another rider and felt horrible about it since I could've easily avoided it by sitting out a session and putting my warmers on.
People say "you can learn so much in the rain/wet"
I say the only thing I will learn is how much it costs to fix my bike when I wreck or how far I can slide in the mud.
It sucks if the bottom line was affected (I'm sure it was since nesba has to pay for the track either way) and this is why the schedule is so slim this year, but I think the elite policy saved me and a lot of other people headaches, money and kept me safe because who knows what would've happened if I went out to ride simply because I didn't want to lose the $ that I paid for the day. It sucked big balls listening to people ride on a damp track while sitting in my pit but I still feel like I made the right decision for me.
I appreciate your responses John, and I'm hoping you and Bob will leave the Elite cancellation policy the way it is and add about 30 more dates to the schedule to include VIR-SSN, Barber, and NJMP because we all want to have our cake and eat it too :roll
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Mike, when you say rain ruins your equipment, are you talking about adult diapers? Because, Your leathers, bike, and stands will be fine. But, diapers do swell when wet.bmrboy;300482 wrote: :agree: 100 % with you Joey !!!! I'm another one that canceled at VIR S.S.N. weekend it rained every day ... I wanted to
ride so bad !!!!!! But riding in the rain sucks ... PERIOD !!!! I won't ride my street bikes in the rain & riding on the track is
not going to happen , your equipment gets soaked & ruined.. never mind if you fall off !!! I'm THE ONLY ONE THAT PUTS FOOD
ON THE TABLE & pays my bills ... If I get hurt & out of work for a few weeks or months I'm in deep DO DO ......
So call it or me what ever you want , but foolish & stupid are words that don't come to mind !!!
William ............... I think you know exactly what I'm talking about !!!!!!!!wallacew;300775 wrote: Mike, when you say rain ruins your equipment, are you talking about adult diapers? Because, Your leathers, bike, and stands will be fine. But, diapers do swell when wet.
I'm just checking for clarity
just trying to add some happiness to such a sad thread.bmrboy;300776 wrote: William ............... I think you know exactly what I'm talking about !!!!!!!!
You sound like your speaking from experience , :haha: about the adult diapers swelling when wet ...............
